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Re: YMTC: Bluabot "Descores" Red Tetra

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Originally Posted by BandChick
Granted, you're entitled to your opinion, but I'm entitled to mine. I don't think the red tetra should count because, even though blue pushed, it is REDS fault for not being strong/fast enough to push back, or move away at the end. It is NOT blue's fault, but rather a weaker robot. Yes, it is hard to make a competitive robot, but that's the point of FIRST. You win some, you lose some.

Redabot obviously wasn't fabricated well enough, wasn't strong enough, wasn't fast enough or didn't have a quick-enough thinking drive team. How is that blue's fault when all they did was try to defend the center goal?
If you were to steal candy from a baby, would it be the baby's fault for not having a good enough grip to hold on?

This isn't a case of playing defense and preventing them from scoring. This is a case of using their robot to descore their tetras. The rules don't cover this as written, but they clearly should. Defense shouldn't be able to take away 30 points in a matter of 5 seconds.
If their robot is so weak, then push them away every time they go near a goal. Having a weak robot should earn you less points, not earn you more then have them taken away.

Edit:I'd also like to make a slight note about the rule I suggested before. It's not meant to apply when defense is being played on a bot trying to score, as Team Update #18 explained. Contact on a robot while they're trying to score is all fine and dandy, but once that tetra falls on and the bot backs away...move on.

According to team update #18, you're responsible if one of the scoring team knocks off one of their own tetras while being pushed by you. I feel that results of legitimate goalline defense should never be penalized.
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