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Unread 08-04-2005, 17:17
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Re: YMTC: Bluabot "Descores" Red Tetra

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Originally Posted by Goldeye
Pushing a team onto one of it's stacks is a single maneuver that can swing the score of a game massively. It does this without the team gaining the advantage even touching a tetra. That's quite possibly the most aggressive defense possible. We clearly don't want teams to win through such methods.
Then "we" should counterract such maneuvers by using our drivetrains to push back. If my drivetrain is too weak to counter a legal pushing maneuver, if I do not wish to run the risk of touching my tetra stacks at the end of a match, then I will keep my robot as far away from my stacked tetras as possible. If I am an offensive juggernaut and am trying to pop that last tetra on a goal, I will be even more wary of a defensive team who knows how to use their arm to block tetra capping. If they use their arm to pin mine up against my stacked tetras when time runs out.....oops!

As long as the pushing team isn't using the goal to rip me to pieces or isn't ramming me from 15 feet away, I'm fine with this rule interpretation.

One thing I've noticed in this thread is the use of so many different words to describe defense - some are more severe than others - push, ram, bump, force, etc. I think a lot of the confusion present in these discussions is a result of using so many different words with different connotations in the rules, related Q/A's, and "why did we do that" explanations in team updates. "Pushing" is used liberally in Team Update #18, but then we see the word "ram" show up in the "why we did that" explanation. That is very confusing. We've got to become more consistent using these words across the board.
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