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Re: YMTC: Bluabot "Descores" Red Tetra

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Originally Posted by T. Hoffman
Then "we" should counterract such maneuvers by using our drivetrains to push back. If my drivetrain is too weak to counter a legal pushing maneuver, if I do not wish to run the risk of touching my tetra stacks at the end of a match, then I will keep my robot as far away from my stacked tetras as possible.
According to Team Update #18 this isn't a legal pushing maneuver against a robot that's trying to cap. Why would it be legal against one that's not?

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Originally Posted by T. Hoffman
If I am an offensive juggernaut and am trying to pop that last tetra on a goal, I will be even more wary of a defensive team who knows how to use their arm to block tetra capping. If they use their arm to pin mine up against my stacked tetras when time runs out.....oops!
I feel that blocking tetra capping is the way to play defense. If something like a descoring happens during legal blocking, no one should be penalized. I don't like that update 18 makes it dangerous to attempt to stop a robot as they cap...That's a big blow against the 'right kind' of defense. But if they intentionally are moving your arm to make you descore, that's improper.

That is, Triple Play is clearly not supposed to consist of any intentional tetra descoring. The game is about putting tetras on, not taking them off. They've said this a number of times, and the legality of this maneuver doesn't help reach that goal. Rather than what I suggested earlier of putting the blame for the descore on the pushing robot, it'd be much more appropriate to not descore a tetra solely for being touched by a robot of the same alliance, once that tetra has been properly stacked and the stacking robot has backed away.
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