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Originally Posted by Natchez
With 15 seconds remaining in the rubber match of the Magnolia finals, Redalliance is losing by 2 points when Redabot is the 3rd Redalliance 'bot in the end zone resulting in a 10 point score and an 8 point Redalliance lead. With no hope for Bluabot to score a tetra nor for all 3 Blualliance robots to go "home", Bluabot pushes a nearby red vision tetra toward Redalliance's end zone. With time running out, Bluabot manages to push the vision tetra against Redabot with the other side of the vision tetra touching the carpet outside the end zone.
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Not sure why this one .... (Lucien can fill in the rest)
With the exception of when the robot is interacting with the Human Player in the Loading Zone, a tetra loaded on a robot is not considered an extension of the robot (the one exception is for safety reasons). Having a red tetra touching the Redabot does not negate the fact that Redabot is behind the End Zone line. Redabot is legal, Redateam gets the 10 point bonus, Redalliance wins!
The one difficulty with this problem is that in order to satisfy the YMTC requirements (i.e. cite specific supporting clauses from the 2005 Rules to support your argument), we would have to find a rule that specifically says that an attached tetra is considered part of the robot (or not considered, if we want to prove the negative) at any other time. I do not believe that any such rule exists. At best, we must work within the definition of "Robot" provided in Sectino 4.2.1 of the rules, "ROBOT – Anything (which has passed inspection) that a team places on the field prior to the start of a match." That definition does not include any mention of a tetra. Therefore, the game must operate under the interpretation of "robot" as not including a tetra placed on the robot. That is probably as close as we can get to making this a complete YMTC response.
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Originally Posted by JWhiskers
During one of our qualification matches at Detroit, the other alliance had all three of their robots behind the line. But one of them was holding a tetra that was touching outside the line. They did not get their 10 points because of that tetra.
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If it was actually called this way (and I was not there, so I cannot attest that this is actually what happened), then the call was incorrect.
-dave