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Since the FRC competition starts with 8 or 10 matches with random alliances, I believe you really can't tell which are the best robots. I think, therefore, that the seeding is more than just a little arbitrary. The final alliance system needs to address this discrepancy.
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Rick TYler has a good point even though his system is rather complicated...
One of the reasons the alliance picking is an issue, I personally think, is because the seeding is a matter more often than not of luck. It is true that luck favors the good robots many times in the seeding matches,

But it is also true that the number one seed has quite a fair bit of luck with alliance partners and such. This year alliance partners are especially crucial because playing with two dead robots, even if you are the ultimate superrobt, you almost never win.
The eliminatation rounds currently try to compensate for this by making the alliances win 2 matches, instead of sudden death or whatever. But, I think the point some people are trying to make, which I agree with, is that, even before the draft even begins, this should be balanced a little by taking the first pick of the second round away from the top alliance. This means that the number one alliance needs to be able to hold its own and absolutely cannot be the weak robot in its alliance, otherwise it will be topped by the #8 alliance.
Very interesting discussion all... hopefully this will be taken into consideration by the people down at FIRST for next years game!