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Re: pic: Midwest Regional Capping Incident

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Originally Posted by Joe Johnson
I am just now reading this message and I am in Jack's corner on this one.

I don't know what the rules say now, but by the time Atlanta rolls around, the rule should not be that both reds count and blue does not.

If both red tetras count, then it will be a trivial matter for any number of teams to do just what Jack shows on many goals. I can list 20 teams from memory that I think could do this intentionally if they want to.

If both red tetras count, in effect, this not only scores 2 tetras for the red alliance but it also means the following two things:
  1. red owns the goal for the rest of the match
  2. the goal is out of scoring contention for the rest of the match because it is almost impossible for blue (or anyone for that matter) to score on top of the 2 reds and they cannot be descored.
This is a non-trivial change in the game, one that I believe it will be a change for the worse.

Thoughts?

Joe J.

Someone talked to me about this and thought that stacking two tetras sideways would effectively score the goal for you and give you possession of that goal. They thought that they would use this strategy to win matches. However, I do believe that it would be a waste of time to stack two tetras sideways. First of all, the robot has to be able to carry two tetras, and they have to be sideways at that. Many robots have one tetra on their manipulator and it just swings around, how are you going to balance a second one in the side opening of the first on one their? Most teams will be unable to do this. Next, you will be placing two tetras, but only scoring one. And a lot of matches are decided by only a few points. It is easier to defend against a sideways double stack also. And my last point will be that to make this move worth while, you will have to do this to at least 3-4 goals, which will take a little bit of time. 3-4 goals means 6-8 tetras, which most teams can't even accomplish in a single match putting them on straight, much less a sideways double stack. I only see this happening by accident again and I do not think that any team will start stacking like this to use to their advantage.
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