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Originally Posted by Goldeye
I agree with you on the first part. Though the rules don't make it all explicitly obvious, as long as the call is consistantly only regarding loading zones (both, or just human, whatever is decided) it's all good.
The reason it's an issue with the autoloading zone is that you may be able to use it to pull a tetra in, or in another manner load it, without being in the loading zone. A safety hazard, for numerous reasons. The most apparent being that the attendant will not load another tetra until you leave the zone. If you never enter, how do they know when you've left? :/ Counting it as a part of the robot or not, the carried tetra hitting the autoloader tetra is a safety hazard, and should be ruled as such.
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Well - according to Q/A 1851-1852, you can be touching a stacked tetra with a tetra, and it will still count, as it should. You can be touching a tetra that is outside the endzone line, and still get the bonus points, as it should be. I'm still not sure about "a robot being supported" by a tetra outside the endzone line (where the robot would otherwise be touching outside the endzone), but at this point, seems legal according to the rule as long as the robot itself is not touching outside the line.
If you use a tetra to violate G15, you get penalty. If you remove an oppoents tetra from their autostation, you'll get a penalty (G28). If you descore a stacked tetra from a goal with a tetra in your gripper, it's a penalty (G18-so technically the tetra is part of the robot in this case per the definition of that rule).
So, with that, I'm assuming if we're holding a tetra, and that accidentally knocks off our own auto tetra, it's also a penalty.... I guess technically it should be, but this should be included in the definition of when a tetra is part of the robot. I don't think they were calling these penalties at some regionals, and just picked the tetra up and put it back on the loader (even if it fell inside the field).