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Unread 25-04-2005, 10:41
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Re: So close yet so far.

As a television engineer I have worked with cameras for over 25 years. Glib comments about "it's just another item you have to work around" don't help. Our attempts at getting anything useful out of our camera system were utter failures.
I watched 66 at GLR I was impressed.
From reading the forums here they are one of only about 4 teams that had a camera system that worked at all. That's four teams out of about 1000. Other comments in the forums here lead me to believe that the numbers for calibrations were at best inconsistent.
Looking at the playing fields with the skills I have learned shading cameras lead me to conclude the only way to get a good set of calibration numbers was to put your robot out there and do it yourself. This was not accounted for.
In the rules, and question and answer system mentions about programming for interference from colored objects. It was also stated that deliberate color schemes and clothing that sole intent was to confuse the vision system were against the rules.
So bottom line hat's off to 66 and the other teams that went down the vision system road.
In my opinion the match should have been replayed as the announcers clothing, although maybe not deliberate, clearly interfered with a vision system.
Like last year First clearly had high hopes for some kind of robot vision. The teams that had the best luck with vision last year clearly limited what they used the IR system for.
Maybe in the future there can be time on the field set aside for Teams to do the calibrations for future vision systems. My suggestion would be lunch on Thursday, First come first serve.(Pun intended) After all whining with out offering a solution is not a GP thing to do.