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Re: which is better aluminum or steel????

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Originally Posted by sanddrag
Actually, I view the situation as quite on the contrary. It is much more effective to take more wieght out of steel parts because they have more mass per unit volume. Say you want to take a pound out of 1/4" aluminum plate. You'd have to drill 50 1" holes! But if that was steel you'd take out a lot more than one pound with that many holes.

But all the weight you can take out of steel did come from somewhere. It comes from the fact that a steel part is heavier to begin with. So, you can start light with aluminum and if you are still over than there's not a whole lot you can do. Or you can start heavy with steel and if you are over (which you probably will be) you can probably remove a lot. So, it is a tradeoff.

Now, for "ease" of lightening, I suppose you are correct afterall in saying steel is harder to "lighten up" because it is much harder to cut, drill, mill, turn, etc. But, you do get more lbs off for your increased work time.

It is all about tradeoffs.
How do you figure it's a tradeoff? You're saying a steel robot (or component) would get more pounds off in the lightening phase, but wouldn't it be far heavier to start off with anyway?

Let's say the aluminum robot I wanted to make would be 150 pounds before lightening. If I were to make a functionally identical robot with steel, it would weigh 250 pounds (the ratio of aluminum to steel's weight of course varies, but it's generally between two and three times as much). Now, bearing in mind you will be able to put a few more holes in the steel robot or use thinner steel, the strength gain from steel (and don't forget in addition to this the higher cost and machining time) would not be enough to use appreciably less material.

In other words, this is no tradeoff, but is very one-sided in aluminum's favour. Bearing in mind this example is a bit impractical in a robot-building sense, a square-inch hole in a steel plate versus a square-inch hole in an aluminum one will obviously not bring the former's weight below the latter's. Which is probably why most everyone uses aluminum on their frames I would say.
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