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Originally Posted by Steve W
The bigger issue is the constant slamming and put downs that I have been seeing. The FIRST bashing that goes on (I am guilty sometimes, I know) really needs to stop. We/I need to find other ways to get to FIRST and have them listen. Sometimes I think that if we push hard enough here that FIRST will do our bidding when in truth, they are probably not even listening. This is not their board and they do not have to read here even though some do.What would be the impact on CD if we implemented a NO FIRST Bashing policy. That does not mean that we cannot discuss problems but that we just don't bash FIRST (or others).
It is the responsibility of every member of CD to help make the boards better. If you see someone making a bad post or needing help with the search engine, then we should be PMing them with helpful suggestions and not slamming them with neg reps. We all need to pitch in and it wouldn't take much to improve the best robotics site in the world.
The large growth of FIRST and CD is great but will also bring a larger demand on all of us as we try to educate and demonstrate what FIRST stands for. GP was not explained to me but shown. My first experience was at my first event as a spectator in Cleavland. What I saw in the pit area was all I needed to see in order to understand GP. It also sold me on FIRST. GP is best shown and lived and not talked about.
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First of all: Excellent total post, Steve. You shared some great thoughts!
In response to the first paragraph quoted, you are absolutely correct. As you know, I sometimes work very closely with some FIRST people, and you are absolutely right in your supposition that they're not listening to the Forums...many are unaware of what the forums do, or even of the existence of this site. Someone else, I don't know who, made the suggestion to suggest to FIRST that they have someone scan the site, at least occasionally so that they have some idea of what's being discussed.
As far as posts are concerned, it's always much more gracious to make a suggestion privately, rather than make a public display! You both look better to each other and to the community at large.
Occasionally, the behavior of others does need a direct bit of assertiveness. It's only lately, and perhaps more so this year, that I have personally seen or heard of less than gracious behavior from teams. I was really disappointed, because I've always thought that this was one activity where people were consistently nice to each other. And it wasn't always the young people. We need to stress the idea that grandma's watching everybody!
Now, what's the best way to get these messages out and about???