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Unread 16-10-2005, 17:46
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Re: Getting A Bot To Turn

The physics of drivetrain turning is all laid out quite nicely right here:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pa...le&paperid=222
Courtesy of Chris Hibner. (I can never give this whitepaper enough props.)

Basically, you need to reduce the turning scrub.

The ways a typical 6WD system accomplishes this, is by reducing the wheel-base in the fwd-back direction at any given time.

Think about an example where your robot was half as long; it would turn much better. Since we can't permanently reduce this wheel base, (it reduces robot stability in the fwd-back direction) a 6WD solution with a lowered middle wheel rocks back and forth between 2 of these 1/2-long wheel-bases.

To understand how this shorter wheel-base increases turning, again just look to the physics of it.

I have taken one example, there are many others. All of them, relate directly back to the "turning-physics". If you understand that, you will find 10 ways to solve your problem.

Your next steps should be:
  • Read the whitepaper.
  • If you need help understanding what is in that whitepaper: ask for help understanding it.
Hopefully this will be a thread with engineering contributions to the discussion, and not another one where people simply spout garbage like "4 wheel drives dont turn ever u shud go wit a swerve".

-JV
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