[sirbleedsalot]

Thanks, I will stay clear of the zd8000. Is there a $400 difference between the hp zv6000 with 15.4" screen, Athon 64 4000+ CPU, and 128MB RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M video card. And the Sager np475-v, with the athon 64 3700+ CPU, RADEON 9700 with 128mb sdram, and 17" screen. The screen size does not matter to me, all I care about is performance and I know the smaller screen will boost battery life. If the only difference is in playing games then I might have to buy a 360 and switch over to counsel gaming.