[KenWittlief]

accepting the limits of nature? Im not too sure about this

many times it wasnt nature, it was our understanding that was flawed.

Several years ago 2.8k modems were the best you could get, because Nyquist said that is the fastest that data can be transmitted on a phoneline with a 3,000 Hz bandwidth

but now we have 56k modems, on those phonelines with the same 3kHz bandwidth

nature folded on that one and gave in. Sometimes it pays to keep railing :^)

also, sometimes when you sit and ponder ways to cheat, you come up with a good idea that is not cheating - unrestricted brainstorming!