[KenWittlief]

wow, Im thinking just the opposite

mostly because in the engineering world, engineers usually dont build anything. We do the design work, and hand the CAD drawings or netlist or wiring diagram off to a layout person, machinist, technician... and they do the hands on building

when they get done they walk into our office and say "here's your unit" - then we test and debug to see if the design meets the requirements specification (engineer-speak for "what its suppose to do")

so if we really want students to learn about engineering, we should let them do the design work, hand the drawings off to the engineers and mentors (and we will hand them off to the machinists and technicians like we always do :^)

FIRST is not advanced shop class