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Originally Posted by computer411
...They (engineers) are there only to help the teams out, not to completely design the robot which most of the time happens with a team that has technical advisors.
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I think you need a little more exposure to the entire FIRST community, if this is your impression of what happens most of the time.
Over the years I have noticed that rookie teams often fall into a pattern where the sponsor and mentors think FIRST is a robot competition - they think they have to build a really spiffy and competitive robot so the higher-ups in the company will not be embarrassed to have the corporate name on it
very often rookie teams will end up with an all-mentor designed and built robot. Then they get to their first FIRST regional, meet other teams, talk to other students and mentors, and somewhere over the 3 days it clicks
and then they 'get it'.
Getting back to the rest of your post: sometimes in our human experience there are things that we dont know, and we also dont know that we dont know - there are many things that are only learned as we bump along through life, through experience, then over the years we understand what it was that happened.
and heres the thing: no matter how intelligent you are, you cant forsee these things - you can possibly anticipate them - they come out of nowhere - you dont know that you dont know about these things
thats one of the real values of mentorship. Throughout most of human history young people learned by apprenticeship, working side by side with someone who had years of experience and training.