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Originally Posted by sanddrag
However, at the same time, I think they are cheating themselves out of the rewarding experience of working with real professionals.
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There is also something that a student run team gets that heavily mentored teams will never have and will never understand.
I have been told, the best way to learn is to learn through mistakes.
the mentors that are active in the pits are depriving the students from the experience that is needed to be successful.
i will now make 2 killer analogies. Ready?
1. Besides Robotics my other life is what we call in our school sound and light(we are the people in the back of the theater balancing the Mic's and programing the lights) my "mentor" allows us (the students) to do the balancing of the Mic's so we develop the hearing that allows us to hear subtle rings in the voices before the audience does. This prepares us to be the mentors someday and be able to work without him guiding us every second.
which brings me to #2
2. When parents are raising a child or teachers teaching young students in preschool and kindergarten[or a councler at camp (in my case)] they allow the kids to explore their world and to figure out how to open doors and tie their shoes. If the teacher does not give them that freedom the child will become dependent on the teacher.
I hope you see the parallels.
Not only do engineer teams loose the trial/error aspect they most likely loose the pride i feel when i see our creation out there on the field.
everybody on the team knows how everything works and what it took to get it there in the first place. it's our "Blood Sweat and Tears" out there on the field.
I hope when we are done on this thread all teams will find a happy medium where the students do the building and have the mistakes that prepare them all while under the watchful and experienced mentor who wants the best learning experience for the students.