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Originally Posted by Tristan Lall
However, for various reasons, there have been attempts by numerous officials to downplay, redefine and justify all sorts of actions that might reasonably be associated with torture.
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A single man with the passion to kill thousands can do so with technology that is readily available. He thinks of himself as a soldier representing his god. He is unconcerned about the consequences of his actions and is willing to die for his cause. A single person capable of killing thousands...
We are in one of the most difficult times in history. Traditionally, a country declares war on another country. They fight and one side is the clear winner with the other county admitting defeat. The modern day terrorist has no government support. Most Middle Eastern governments aren’t even concerned if their citizens are committing acts of terror. The terror is supported by a group of individuals who share the same ideals. Recruitment happens when someone else shares the ideals. However, these are not soldiers we are not fighting a traditional war. One day a member could be on a roof top sniping the next day he is in a market selling vegetables. This is why they are called terrorist, insurgents or enemy combatants.
The US has to deal with terrorism in very unconventional ways. Otherwise, we are just sitting ducks for the next terrorist attack. We need information on where the terrorists are, who they are, and what their next move is. They are not going to announce their attack, they just do it. They know they can't actually win they know that they just want to cause pain, fear and death- terror. Try to kill as many Americans as possible; hit a US landmark, the goal is to erase our resolve for peace. The US doesn't want to control another country. We just want that country to act responsibly and deal with terrorism.
I don’t feel there is enough public information to judge whether the US is committing acts that could truly be considered torture. One method of information gathering is forcing a detainee to be awake for long periods of time without sleep. Some would say that is torture, most would not. I think the word torture conjures images of splinters under finger nails and there’s no evidence to support torture in the truest since. There’s simply no evidence to support similar events.
To wrap things up, certainly the United States is using unconventional methods to interrogate prisoners. The inhumane treatment at Abu Ghraib was condemned and the responsible parties were punished. Learning information from prisoners is crucial to understanding and stopping terror throughout the world. In this very untraditional war on terror the United States absolutely needs to use “any means necessary” to extrapolate information about terror from suspects. Any means neccessary is simply referring to the unvonventianal approach needed to be taken to win this war. Regardless of the wording of the President’s slogans or other military officials speeches there is no reason to believe they have authorized torture of US prisoners.
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Originally Posted by M. Krass
Given that you've argued extensively in the past that women do not deserve the right to vote, forgive me if I find your brand of common sense idiotic;
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Ms. Krass, I’m welcome to your ideas and thoughts but please refrain from baseless personal attacks. Thanks.