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Re: Stanley 'Tookie' Williams

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Originally Posted by Bill Gold
I lied. Here's another opinion...

Second verse is the same as the first. No.

I'm not going to even both responding to Ken, Mike, or some of the other posts in this thread. It's not worth my time. Go Tristan, Beth, and Andy!
Bill, you've made some of the worst posts I have ever seen in this thread. Simply stating that we're not worth the time is takes to respond in a thoughtful manner. We're not barbarians and have put time in our posts. The people who support the death penatly are not some cult phenomenon; 74% of the country is in favor of the death penatly for a convicted murderer! (Source)
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Originally Posted by M. Krass
I can probably make a list of all sorts of people with questionable moral fiber. After you've finished deciding from the comfort of your armchair whether this kid should live or die, let me know and we can start a full-fledged witchhunt!

I'll bring the stake if you bring the firewood.

(That is to say, it's probably mildly inappropriate to so casually discuss the future of complete strangers based on what you read on Wikipedia.)
I'm sure you'd put me on a list of people with questionable moral fiber based on posts 27 and 29 of this thread. I find it mildy inapropriate that you can spit out the ridiculous comments about me like you've had in this thread without citing anything. But hey, what's integrity?

I make my desicions based on a collection of news sources. Not just Wikipedia. Mr. Ludwig is not surrounded by a property battle between Salem Town and Salem Village. He had a motive to kill the parents and he admitted to it. I'm not saying this kid wasn't mentally ill. I think he should plead insanity. However, this is hardly a witch hunt.
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Originally Posted by Amanda Morrison
...since we have proven statistically that the death penalty has not worked as a threat to criminals and in some states the crime rate has gone up since the implementation of the penalty, what is the solution?
I don't think we've proven the effectiveness of the death penalty.
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Originally Posted by Amanda Morrison
And more importantly, since this is already the subject at hand... could you have given the order to kill Stanley Williams and live the rest of your life knowing you killed another human being? Answer honestly, carefully, justifiably, and <b>politely</b>.
Honestly, I would feel a little remorse. You can always find some redeeming quality of a person to make them likable. That's why Mr. Williams was able to generate such a media frenzy. However, I think that I could justify "pulling the switch" because when he committed the act he knew the consequences.

I'm sure the mentality of the executioner is similar to being in the repossession business. When you are towing away the car of a single mother who couldn't pay the bill. You know what you're doing will deal a tremendous blow to the person and their family. You also know that we have rules, contracts and laws in this country. You're just in the unsavory position of holding them accountable for their actions.

The answer is, yes, I could have killed Stanley Williams. That doesn't mean I'd feel great about it, or that I'm a barbarian; I'm just a positively contributing member of society.
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