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Re: ***THE GAME OFFICIAL: AIM HIGH***

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Originally Posted by Aburame Shino
Hey, quick question everybody. Has anybody found anything about point/disqualification penalties if your robot accidentally ends up hitting an opposing robot with one of the balls while it's being fired (like the opposing robot getting in the way at the last second)? Since the balls can be fired at up to 26.8 miles per hour, it seems like it could do some serious damage to an opposing robot if they accidentally get in the way. I can't find anything that talks about this unless the damage was intentional.
My friend, they are Nerf balls. I don't know if you've ever been hit with a nerf ball at that speed but it doesn't do anything more than leave a red mark that fades quickly.

If your robot falls prey to nerf balls, than you probably shouldn't be at comp.

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Originally Posted by iCurtis
You put your balls into your goal, which is right in front of the opposing human player (they are counted as they enter the goal). Then the opposing human player can do whatever he likes with them, most likely throwing them back on the field to his robot. Please guys, READ THE RULES!!
Exactly. Read the rules--this "official" thread is 4 pages of spam. Please guys--I know 1073 has forbidden any team members to post anything at this time until it has been cleared by a committee to prove it hasn't been answered in the manual already. It would be nice if some of the forum members could exercise that restraint.

Two legitimate questions as yet unanswered by the manual:

A) Can you broadcast a green light that is the same as the tall green light in order to trick CMU cams during the match? Edit answered by <R31> negatively.

B) How will the balls in the corner goals be scored? It seems that the balls in the corner goals are also fodder for the opposing team's human player.

So are balls scored on their passage through the portal of the goal, or upon their final resting place? For instance, if am I, as the red team HP, allowed to remove a ball from the blue corner goal (which is on my side)?

It seems that you're able to, or else the HP would be denied ammunition. But doesn't this imply that emasculating your opponent's corner goal is as easy as emptying it at the end of the match in a flurry of Nerf? But I don't see anything about scoring-as-you-go, and FIRST has always been "tally at the end of the match"....rule <G39> is exquisitely ambiguous on this standpoint.

iCurtis, for the life of me I can't find any documentation to support your contention that balls are counted in progress. Please cite me a rule and prove it's not just a common sense deduction...

Insummary:Whence do human players derive their scoring objects, and does that derivation deprive their opponents of scored objects?

Breaking news from kickoff: our kickoff kids just got back and pointed out that there are cameras above each corner goal that apparently count as the balls are scored--so that seems to answer this question. Until I have verification from FIRST though...I'll wait and ask this in the official questions page.


When will the video of kickoff be up...

--Petey

p.s. I won't edit it like I originally did, but here's a strategy hint 1073 rookie Sean Sabo figured out. Take a good look at <G24> and think of a strange answer Dean gave during the game show that everyone laughed at, but perhaps shouldn't have.
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