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Re: ***THE GAME OFFICIAL: AIM HIGH***

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Originally Posted by iCurtis
Practice what'cha preach man!

Upon reading the rules (although it is slightly hidden) balls are counted as they go through the corner slot. Therefore, it doesn't matter where the balls end up. As long as they go through the slot they are scored, then when put back on the field by your opponents HP, they can score again.
If you'll notice, in my post, iCurtis, I said I'd read and hadn't been able to find it, although I did update to say we had kickoff evidence of progressive scoring.

Could you provide a game clause please? <GXX> and whatnot.

Thanks

Ooooh this is interesting:

Quote:
<S03> Shooter Mechanism must remain inside the ROBOT - Any mechanism used to throw balls must be
contained within the original 28” x 38” x 60”starting envelope of the ROBOT and must be shielded such
that the mechanism cannot make contact with other ROBOTs. A ROBOT that violates this rule will be
considered unsafe per <S01>.
Quote:
<G05> In order for a ball to score, it must enter the goal and exit via the exit chute. A ball that bounces out of the
goal is not scored. Once a ball is scored for a particular ALLIANCE, it cannot score again until it is
entered onto the field by the opposing ALLIANCE’s HUMAN PLAYER.
This hints towards progressive scoring although it is not explicit. Is this what you were referring to iCurtis?

Notes randomly edited in during a team meeting. If they're not answered in here, than we'll post them in the Q/A
  • our team is unclear: do the points you score at the beginning of autonomous mode count after autonomous mode is over, or is it merely used to determine order of turns, like a pre-game roll of the die? Rules seem to be silent (reading <G01> is unclear), and the animation doesn't explain it...is it a bonus on top of the scoring or the extent of the scoring?
  • since they make the distinction between "all goals" and "opposite goals" in <G01> and the others, are we to assume that if we score on our goal (which is to say the center goal directly above our own drivers) it still counts for our team?
  • May a defensive bot sit beneath the goal and fire directly up balls with the intent of deflecting incoming shots? For that matter, may a human player throw balls at incoming shots provided they do not leave the field? Neither would seem to infringe upon <G39> considering it does not interfere with ball counting any more than any other defensive method.

    <G38> reads:
    Quote:
    <G38> Entering balls onto the field - Only the HUMAN PLAYERs may enter a ball onto the field, either by
    attempting to throw it to a ROBOT, attempting to throw it in a corner goal, or throwing it onto the field
    for pickup by a ROBOT. Balls must be thrown over the top of the Alliance Station Wall, and may not be
    thrown around the side of the Alliance Station Wall. Violations of this rule will result in a 5-point penalty
    per ball entered onto the field.
    This seems like it rules that out...but I'm not sure...
  • If a robot is on the platform and a human player throws a ball the length of the field that bounces off the robot and scores in the correct (i.e. opposite) goal...does it count?

Overall, though, this is a remarkably good first draft of the manual...

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Last edited by Petey : 07-01-2006 at 16:55.
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