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I don't know if max 8 come with them, but there are a lot of premade materials in the materials library. i have mine left over from max 6, and just copy the materials over every time i update. if you don;t have raytrace libraries 1 and 2, pm me and i can email them to you. they'll help a lot.
don't worry, this stuff is legal as it is part of 3dsmax6 that went out 2 years ago.
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ok, first off, my version of 8 doesn't work, and i only have version 7. so if it is possible i'd like to restrict it to just 7. i will try what you have said so far and see how far i will get. thanks.