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Re: an evil, desperate, ramp strategy

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Originally Posted by Sachiel7
So if in field actions can be non-GP, why not strap a buzzsaw onto your robot and just finish off the other alliance quickly?
Because that is against the rules...
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<G22> Intentional ROBOT - ROBOT Interaction - Strategies aimed solely at the destruction, damage, tippingover, or entanglement of ROBOTs are not in the spirit of the FIRST Robotics Competition and are not allowed.
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Originally Posted by Sachiel7
... GP is and always has been a large part of your interactions on the field. Yes, I expect alot of defensive plays, and that's 100% OK, but be considerate of the other bots. Just as the Rules state, Strategies aimed at the destruction of other robots is not permitted. If you have a defensive strategy and you think it could potentially damage an opposing robot, its not a good idea...
Sorry ... but I just can't agree ...
Just because a defensive strategy "could potentially damage another robot" does NOT mean that strategy is "aimed slolely at the destruction ..." of other robots. MOST defensive strategies will have the "potential" to damage another bot.
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Originally Posted by Sachiel7
... Also, I think you were misinterpreting my desription of the spinbot. The ideas I've been hearing from teams is a robot that spins very fast in-place (like a spinbot in battlebots) such that if you were to try and move them, your robot would become damaged. This violates GP, and also goes to show that GP should play a role in a teams strategy on the field. Spinning in place is not a design strategy, or an off field interaction, it takes place on the field, and would violate the concept of GP.
Do unto other bots as you would have them do to you...
I'm not sure if this was directed at me, but I have not commented on the "spin-bot" concept. However I would say there is nothing wrong with that strategy. Think about the fact that while on defense you only have two robots defending against three offensive robots. If you want to sit in front of a corner goal and spin then you are leaving your partner defensive robot to defend the other two scoring options without your help. I would just stay away - go to the other corner goal to score - to avoid potential damage to my offensive robot. Of course, it would be another story entirely if you pursued another bot while spinning ... I would view that as intent to cause harm, and thus worthy of a DQ.

Again I will say, I believe we should always "play to win", WITHIN THE RULES while on the field. If our team happened to damage another robot during a match I would be the first one to offer my services to help with repairs. That's competition AND GP. And if our actions drew a penalty in the view of the referees, then so be it ... That's also part of the game.
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