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Originally Posted by AmyPrib
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Incase you are too lazy:
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Originally Posted by GDC
It is contrary to the intent of the game to gain advantage by using a dead robot as a tool to force the other alliance to incur penalties. A backbot that is prevented by another robot from crossing the center line - or is pushed off-sides - will not incur a penalty.
Also note that each alliance gets to choose which robot is assigned as their backbot. In this example, the red alliance gets to choose which robot is assigned as the backbot. They cannot be forced into making this decision by blue alliance attempts to move the dead red robot.
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Though I can not say I agree with this it is what it is. I have to say this is what annoys me with the GDC. I suggest that they build the "intent of the game" into the RULES rather than their interpretations. This really will constrain this fine game of ours from becoming a sport if rules are not meant to be read but entire rule books read in the light of the GDC's interpretation of the "intent of the game". They either need to make rule modifications or stick to the ones they have.
So then in follow up some one posted:
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Clarification from here: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=732
In this instance, would RedAlliance have to either move the dead redbot back into backbot position or have another robot become backbot, or would they no longer be responsible to do this since BlueAlliance pushed the dead bot across the line?
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The red alliance would not be penalized, but they would have to act to restore a valid backbot. In this instance, once the blue robot stopped pushing the dead red robot, the red alliance would have to either push the dead red robot back across the center line or move another red robot across the center line to become the backbot. The choice of these options is up to the red alliance. The red alliance would not be penalized for the momentary period when three red robots are on the same side of the field between the time the blue robot stopped pushing the red dead robot and the red alliances attempts to position their backbot, for the reasons cited in this question/answer.
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In other words you DO still need to get a backbot if yours was pushed over. I will be asking tonight how long this grace period is.
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Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
I don't know. If they were, they would of had to move it up on to their ramp from midfield to get any points whatsoever. Another legitimate strategy?? Maybe???
That's amusing.
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No, I thought they were jsut being really good sports! I thought they were trying to get their opponent on sides so it did not incure any penalties.
As for deadbots being pushed onto the ramp that DID happen to us at our scrimmage. Our refs counted it for 5 points.