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Unread 03-03-2006, 22:36
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Re: NASA/VCU field problems

"Last year there was also a problem with scoring at VCU. The team that was seeded #1 was incorrectly seeded due to the fact that they played one more match than the rest of the field, and that match was included in their total wins."

The FIRST Rep. at last years event, pointed out to the announcer, Woody Flowers, Dave Lavery, Head Ref, and the event manager, that the rankings were wrong. The 1st ranked team should have been ranked 4th. They did not want to listen to him. The event was running 2 hours behind for lots of reasons, and they just wanted to get it done! (Frankly not caring, that it was wrong, Woody even made a mistake in how the selections were done, and when pointed out by the FIRST Rep that it was wrong, the comment was "Woody said to do it this way".)

As someone who has written a lot of software, I would like to know how many people have written a complicated piece of software (Such as the scoring system.) and had it work correctly the first time it is used. Just look at Windows and most versions of Linux. Everyone of these has had major bugs that were only fixed over time. As was said before, there is no way to test a system as complicated as this, without testing it at an event such as a regional. Scrimmages are good, but they just don't put the same load on a program as a regional.

When you think about it, most programs are tested by using beta versions, with 100's of people testing them. The scoring system working after a couple of weeks of testing is actually quite amazing, and says a lot about the people who wrote it!!

In the next couple of days, people will be putting down the scoring system. Just remember the GDC takes 6-8 months to develop the game, then expect someone to write and test a scoring system, that works 100% the first week. Maybe the solution is having the DC working a year ahead of time developing the game. That would give everyone, including FIRST a chance to have great fields, and an 100% scoring system!

Just my $.02, probably not even worth that much!
It was not my intention to upset anyone, just to point some things out.

Last edited by Covey41 : 03-03-2006 at 22:40.