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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
2ft/S is 1.3mph!!!
Cars are designed to withstand a 5mph collision (rammed) without damage to their bumpers, and many cars can take 10mph with no structural damage.
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This is true but not all teams have the backing of an automaker. Plus people might not know how sturdy they need their robot to be, I know our first year we didn’t know. Plus this is just a personal opinion of what ramming is, yes it is slow, but I see no need for any contact past that point.
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Originally Posted by meaubry
I don't recall the high speed ramming rule NOT applying during the autonomous period - did I miss that?
In my opinion, the argument will rage on because there are as many opinions as there are teams when it comes to defining ramming - and don't expect that the ref's even see this the same way amongst themselves.
So, just ask for as much clarity regarding all aspects of this AT THE DRVERS MEETING, and pay attention to WHAT GETS CALLED.
I, for one dislike robots pushing on each other, but that's probably because I have to fix the thing after it gets broken.
So, there will always be folks that are unhappy with the interpretation and execution of calling or not calling this difficult to measure infraction - but as long as it is being called consistantly AND that every team was clearly communicated with as to what is and what isn't going to be called - that is all we can ask for.
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I completely agree with this. If the calls are consistent and everyone was informed of the incidents then that is enough to satisfy me. I also agree that it would be difficult to measure the infraction. But it all comes down to how the refs interpret ramming. I will live with their calls because they should know what they are doing. Also it is good that you point out ramming during autonomous because that is even more likely to happen as teams just tell their robot to go forward and not determine a good speed. I just hope the calls will be fair and consistent.