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Re: Rules that are [not] getting called at Regionals, the +s and -s
Regarding the incursion corner goal thing, I asked this in Q/A just now - waiting for answer.
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Due to some penalty calls at 1st week regionals, we'd like to have this cleared up before next regionals so that refs can make calls correctly.
Regarding incidental incursion beyond 3" into the corner goals, will there be a DQ for either team if BlueBot pushes RedBot into Redbot's corner goal such that they pass beyond the 3" allowance?
It seems at some regionals there was no call made in this situation.
Also, there are some regionals calling 5pt penalties for corner goal incursion. Nowhere does it say 5pt penalty for anything relating to the corner goal.
Based on the rules and Q/A here is what I've gathered:
- Incursion into goal less than 3" - no penalty
- Intentional incursion into corner goal, beyond 3" - DQ
- Unintentional incursion into corner goal, beyond 3" - DQ
Is that correct? And if so, what team if any, will get a penalty for pushing their opponent into the corner goal such that they go beyond 3"?
Thanks.
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I have no idea why 5pt penalties suddenly appeared for this. The rules do not call for it. The incursion into goal less than 3" is ok. Incursion into goal beyond 3" is a DQ, whether it's intentional or unintentional. Now the big question, which I asked, is whether or not it's situation-based, if an opponent pushes you into the corner goal. If I had to interpret the rules, I would call that unintentional incursion beyond 3" and DQ - and maybe DQ both teams for causing it. I base that off of this Q/A:
http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread...ight=incursion
saying it should be designed and driven to stay out. So the opponent needs to drive such that they don't unintentionally cause the incursion, and the scoring bot needs to design such that they can't go in beyond 3". I saw someone's comment about bumper size making it easy to go in past 3", but I haven't look at that closely yet.
We'll see if Q/A comes up with a quick answer before this week's regionals.
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Last edited by AmyPrib : 06-03-2006 at 16:47.
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