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Re: Rules that are [not] getting called at Regionals, the +s and -s

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Originally Posted by Steve W
If you mean the ramps that drop down to release balls they are legal. I had a discussion with one of the refs and I showed him in the rules were these are legal. If the ramp is outside of the footprint of the robot then it is OK as long as they don't make contact with another robot. If they do there can be penalties depending on the infraction.
Actually Steve, I believe it was the referee that showed you in the rules where I (oops) ... I mean HE was w..w..w..w..wrong about those ball-dumping doors.
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Originally Posted by Tristan Lall
As described, they're not actually legal (if they "might push against another robot"), but that's an issue for inspectors to catch before the robot competes. The penalties (on the other hand) require interference during the match; if that occurs, it's up to the referee to make the call. Basically, there are two separate issues, enforced by different officials; if one fails to enforce their half of the rule, the other half of the rule is still applicable.
As Steve correctly pointed out in his later post (and to me on the field in NJ - which won him a Mountain Dew BTW) the last sentence in rule <R04> states:
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<R04> ... If a mechanism or an appendage (a ball harvester, for example) becomes a wedge that interferes with other robots, penalties, disabling, or disqualification can occur depending on the severity of the infraction.
And also, Steve, while I am here ... I enjoyed meeting and working with you, and look forward to seeing you in Atlanta ... just make sure you bring your rule book!!

In fact, I am now having second thoughts about the interpretation of <R04> ... but that is a discussion for another day ...
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  • Boilermaker Regional (with 1018) - DONE
  • Midwest Head Ref - DONE
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