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Re: Rules that are [not] getting called at Regionals, the +s and -s

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Originally Posted by Steve W
<G21> ROBOT Incursion into the Corner Goal - Incidental incursion into the corner goal that occurs as a result
of a ROBOT pushing balls into the goal is permitted, not to exceed a distance of approximately 3 inches.
Intentional incursion, for example to use a ball gathering mechanism to drop off balls inside the goal, or
extending a portion of the ROBOT through the goal opening to activate the ball counting system, will
result in disqualification of the offending ROBOT.

This could mean 2-4 inches. I saw some that were marginal that were not called because, I believe, they didn't cause a safety concern. You will also note that there is no penalty defined if you go past the 3". I believe that the rule probably is read that if a robot is pushed in then it would be the refs decision on how to call. It may be that the pushing robot only pushed a bit and barely infringed or that they just pushed as hard as they could, knowing that the other robot was inside the coral. This may not be written in the rules but I am sure that the refs have discussed. The head ref should explain in the drivers meeting and if he/she doesn't then the drivers should ask the question.

I believe that the rule was written that way so that if a bumper went in then there wouldn't be a penalty but if a ball delivery system did then a penalty would be assessed.

If someone gets an answer this week it would be good of you to post.
This rule also seems somewhat to deal with preventing the scoring system from getting screwed up. Bumpers counted as part of the robot when they went into the goal at Portland, because they could interfere with scoring, as was stated at the end of the rule. Whether bumpers will count as part of the robot when they incur into the goal in the future regionals, I can't say for certain.
I know we had one corner goal in Portland break. What caused this seemed to be too much ramming...but robots going into the goal doesn't help either, and that does include bumpers. Past 3" you are going truly into the light table, or possibly a little to close to the light table for comfort.
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