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Originally Posted by DeepWater
I believe that FIRST is trying to tell us ramming is bad but pushing is OK.
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I agree with you there. But to add: The statements do not contradict eachother. One says that if you go into the goal farther than 3", you will be DQed. The other states that if you RAM a robot into a corner goal, you are liable to be penalized. The actions of the other robot are not part of the responses, and therefore i see no contradiction.
As for the ramming, it would be nice if they actually called it during play. I saw a lot of hard hits on the VCU webcasts that would have been considered ramming in my book. However, FIRST provides NO guidelines as to what is ramming other than the description (Long distance, high speed). This leaves it very ambiguous and hard for the refs to determine.