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Originally Posted by Devin L.
i don't think that is something to be too proud of. We do not have bumpers on our robot, and your excessive ramming did not damage our drive frame. bumpers are beside the point. Team 177's defense obviously won them the regional, but i don't think flipping a robot/robots using the ramp them jamming them against the wall when they are down are considered highly interactive, gracious, or professional.
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I just want to make an observation involving the situation and the Bobcat defense. Teams must understand that this game was designed for exactly the heavy defense that everyone was viewing yesterday. If the ramming was "excessive", the referees would have called a penalty...and they did on a couple of occasions yesterday. This game involves an incline...this incline is in a very important part of the playingfield. Furthermore, having a robot on top of the ramp gives you a bonus whether it is your robot OR your opponents robot. Strategically, if you can push your opponent up the ramp, hold them there until the end of the round, and get the 5 points from that, and take away the 5 they would have got from being on their own ramp...that is a MAJOR strategic swing. This is the exact strategy the Bobcats incorperated yesterday against the 126, 20, and 571 alliance. Due to the fact that the Bobcats had a strong drivetrain, they were able to push 20 up the ramp and the incline essentially knocked them right over. This is the risk you take by approaching a defensive maneuver in front of the ramp instead of comming in from the side of the robot to push them away from the ramp. In a game where you have .5 seconds to get an opening and try to shoot balls...you have to find a way to defend yourself from defenders...177, 176, and 1124 were good at doing that, and thats just how the ball drops.
You can't have things both ways folks...either we have a game like 2001 where we are all running around as a happy little family with no interactive defense, or we suck it up and play this game full tilt...heavy defense and all. I dont know about you, but I dont want to see another 4 v 0...I'll take those heavy crashes any day.