[Doug G]

I think the point of Sandrag's comment is regarding the ramming of robots that have tipped over. As much as I hate to see it, and yes we got hit while we're down, I think its the nature of this year's game, inadvertanly, that is. Where do most of the robots go down? In front of the ramp, because they get pushed up at angle and can't recover especially with so many having a high CG. Where do you need to be at the end of a match? On the ramp! No wonder downed robots are getting slammed so much.

We tipped in the our second match at PNW. It was painful to see our robot caught inside of another robot while the other robot kept trying everything to rip free of us. And they did eventually. They ripped apart one of our bumpers. I think bumpers are here to stay folks!!

Oh and another note on robots that have tipped over... If they TRY to shoot out a ball while tipped they get a penalty!!! This happen by accident in our match and they considered it as extending outside the 5'x5' area because the robot was about 6' tall and on its side. Kinda funny really. We had two robots down in our alliance and lost miserably - got to love a little salt in the wound.