[Jack Jones]

We should all agree to accept whichever way the head refs decide to call a play like that. I think we can also agree that it certainly falls into the "tough call" category.

In my opinion, it would be pinning. The robot was between a rock and a hard place, with the other bot the rock and the ramp the hard place. Going onto the ramp against your will, even if you can, is not a good place to be. A large percentage of those who do end up on their backside. And they are forced to go where the other bot can legally pin them. It's like putting a gun to someones head and claiming it wasn't your fault they jumped of that cliff.

Consider last year (rules don't extend to the next year, but common sense does) a team could have held a bot against a goal and claimed it wasn't pinning because the other bot could have gone into the goal and out the other side. I wouldn't buy that. And I don't buy that holding against the ramp isn't pinning - unless THEY say it's not.