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Originally Posted by Cody C
Everybody om this thread is clustering "Damaging" with "Playing Defense", and they are clearly not the same thing. I can play defense and not damage anything... But I will stop you from making a single shot. Damaging isn't supposed to be done in the real game, so of course it isn't allowed in practices.
Both offensive and defensive robots need practice... but a defensive robot practicing on an offensive robot that's not playing offence won't help anything, Just as an offensive robot practicing against a defensive robot that isn't touching them won't help anybody.
I think that the bottom line is this:
Practice matches are exactly like any-other matches and should be played as such, No robot trying to damage any other robot, but robots playing a hard defense and a solid offense,
Besides a robot that's not finished, which would be obvious by the state of their pits when your scouts come around... I don't see any reason not to practice the Actual game.
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I refer you to my rules post earlier in the thread, and the following excerpt from section 8:
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8.2 PRACTICE ROUNDS
8.2.1 Schedule
The Practice Rounds will be played all day Thursday. The Practice Rounds schedule will be available on Thursday morning. Practice Rounds will be randomly assigned. Each team will be assigned an equal number of Practice Rounds. At some events, additional rounds may be available on a standby basis. Each Practice Round will consist of a ten-minute period in which teams may operate their robot on the field. The first five minutes of each Practice Round will start with a 10-second autonomous period, and followed by a “free-form” session, in which the robots may be exercised to evaluate operational characteristics, gain driver experience, determine system robustness, etc. The second five minutes of each Practice Round will be conducted as a “match” with approximately two minutes for set up, two minutes and fifteen seconds of regular game play (including autonomous operations), and one minute to clear the field.
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As far as I'm concerned, the rules specifically state that practice rounds are not meant to be played like the actual game. And "friendly interaction" between robots is allowed if all teams are willing.
As to your first point, yes you can certainly stop me from making any shot if you defend me well enough. I'm well aware of this and don't really care to test the fact if my primary concern in that practice match is testing camera code and dialing in the shooter. If you prevent me from ever sitting still long enough to do so, you've wasted my whole practice round for me, and I will not thank you for it. If you defend me beacuse from your scouting, you assume I'm done testing my robot... well everyone knows what assuming does. As noted by others above, I think communication is very important. But I think the onus should be on teams intending to interfere with other robots practicing and testing. Better to ask permission than forgiveness, as my parents told me.