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Originally Posted by Corey Balint
I'm not gonna get into a whole big thing on strategy this early in the game, and yes defence does not have to be 1 on 1...but do you really think one strong defensive bot will be able to take on 2 defensive bots? As Pete said, look at the balance of the bots...if you watched UTC, you know what i mean.
And the herding bots, how many have you seen a bot with in one match before..if they have a big load they are going to drop off in the closing seconds, you sacrifice your 15 points and get off the ramp to block them, or you let them go if they have less. The herding bots to me can have some advantages yes, but personally, I would take 177(your decent shooter and defender) and any of my shooters over a dumper bot any day.
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I'd have to disagree, a consistant dumper bot/good defender is an extremely solid force to have in any alliance. This is the case in with our alliance, except we had 2 good dumper bots with a good shooter. We were able to defeat a very strong 233 190 744 alliance, all very solid shooters. We were able to utilize a solid zone defense, there is only so much room in the middle of the field, with people occupying that space and pushing people on there corners it makes an extremely difficult time for the shooters. All this time a dumper bot collects and effectively can score in the different areas. There is only 1 center goal there are 2 side goals. Getting to those side goals is not that difficult, especially when you can only have 2 defenders. When a team has 2 solid shooters and a dumper that score many points rapidly ( our bot can dump 18 balls in a little over 3 seconds ) it makes it extremely difficult to defend. There aren't many teams that can score 6 center goal balls in under 3 seconds, to match that 18 points. A few times we'd score 3 dumps and end up on the ramp in the end.
Infact through out the competition we consistantly scored higher than many mediocre shooters, and we weren't the only ones, other examples just at Florida alone would be 59, 357, 1029, 1649. A team with solid defensive drivetrain and is good at dumping the balls quickly is still hard to deal with. There are a ton of examples at the Florida regional to watch, watch the semi-finals 2-1 and 2-2 on the soap archives that show this.
Either way My top lists would include
254
71
111
1213
233
86
25
343
If 180 gets there turret working a bit better ( even tho they won ucf ) they will quickly be vaulted towards the top of my list as well
I'm sure there are many more to follow on this list I havn't added I still havn't seen teams like 45, 67,60,68,47, 16, and soo many others can't wait till nationals to finish my list.