OK Greg, to help clarify:
With all the excitement of the replays, replays & uh....oh yeah replays of the final match there was some misinformation flowing around.
1. There was no actual goal incursion by any team on any alliance. Matt (not Krass our teams Matt C.) verified that afterwards with the refs due to the confusion. The ONLY issues during the replays were field/computer related, (oh yeah and that tie score in the 3rd match)
2. As I mentioned earlier 358 did not have ANY mechanism on their robot that would allow them to enter the lower goal in any way, shape or form. We saw that in Hartford and also knew from our scouting info that dumping was not part of their strategy. Quite frankly they didn't need to dump 'cause their shooter is excellent and only getting better as they "massage" their technology.
On a side note I want to echo Scott's congrats to 514 for their chairman's award. They have been around for many years and through all their up's and down's have always been a class act when it comes to Gracious Professionalism.
Greg, remember that the competition is only a means to and end and the robot is the method of getting to that end. The real payoff is having people like yourself, Matt Krass and anyone else on any FIRST team anywhere having the opportunity to do this.
Like I kept telling all of your 1468 team mates during the build period:
"If you're not careful you're actually going to learn something from this and then you'll be addicted like the rest of us."