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Re: Open Challenge: Make a better FRC ranking algorithm

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
If the rules were black and white the manual would be one page long.

I think it would be fairly easy to classify a robot. Using last years game as an example: if your robot has a mechanism that can launch the ball into the air, it is a centergoal shooter.

If it has a way to capture, hold or store balls, and dump them into the side goals, it is a dumper.

If all your robot can do at best if push balls around with a flat surface, with no captive edges on the 'plow', then it is purely defensive.
That isn't true. 116 HAD a shooter, yet we never used it. 56 used their shooter, yet they still typically would score as many or more points in the corner goals. 1139 had a shooter, yet only scored 6 (or maybe 9) total points in two matches on archimedes, as they spent almost all their time defending. 48 used their shooter for a majority of the Championship event, yet during the eliminations, they replaced it with a hunk of metal and become a defensive bot. Welcome to the fuzzy grey area.
And regarding an earlier point about rookies you made. While a majority of rookies are not extremely competative, there are several notable exceptions each year. 1731 built a fully functional camera-guided turret and shooter this year, finished as the #1 seed at the largest regional in America (VCU), and if 414 doesn't DQ their alliance in SF1-2, then they would have advanced AT LEAST to the VCU Finals. 1902 was the #1 seed at Lonestar, a finalist at UCF, and a finalist on Archimedes. 1816 won Midwest and was the #6 alliance captain on Archimedes. Etc.
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