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Re: FIRST in FUTURE

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Originally Posted by RoboMadi
If by exageration it means me, sitting accross a table full research papers, books, articles, studies, statistcs, etc from well known scientists, which clearly states that Its coming and coming faster than we thought; than i guess i'm really exagerating. Its not my 'own' opinion. I'm just concerned and trying to convey the message instead of an argueing.
Concern is fine, but you have to be able to critically analyze what's being said. Don't just pick out the improbable doomsday scenarios. Avoid potentially sensational descriptors like "ice age", unless you're actually referring to one (which, in the conventional sense, you were not). It's not really coming significantly faster than we thought, unless we had our fingers in our ears and were pretending not to hear about it for the last 20 years.
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Its a fact now that CO2 level has a relationship directly with the temperature (greenhouse gasses). CO2 levels are climbing 300 parts per million for the first time in the history of earth, is it still not alarming? A number that never went over 300 now stands on 375 (thats present). Even if you're right, notice that after ever warm period, ice age approaches really fast. (http://www.seed.slb.com/en/scictr/wa...on_dioxide.jpg)
You realize that you're not helping your position by pointing to the historic trends, right? Isn't your entire thesis that we're deviating from historical norms? That means that you don't really know (based on history) whether a glacial period will come quickly after an interglacial period, because your climate models are based on the historic (>0.03% CO2) atmosphere.
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Now as for Europe, notice this picture. Ice in Arctic and Greenland is melting with the speed of 1.2 million square km per decade (size of Ontario) and temperatures are rising 1.2 degrees every decade. If all that fresh water makes it way to the Atlantic ocean, it will shut that pump that warms Europe resulting in sudden ice age.
Prior to the word "resulting", you were making a plausible statement. It isn't an ice age. An ice age is a long, long time, like 30 to 300 million years. It isn't a local thing, and it isn't solely caused by mere ocean currents.

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It's indeed "extremist deep-end of politics (stated by:artdutra04)." The MAIN PURPOSE of starting this thread was not to start another argument on whether Global Warming exists or not.
If that argument is going on, you're the only participant. I have not been denying global warming; I've been taking issue with the exaggerations of the consequences.
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