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Re: RACK & ROLL Reaction

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Originally Posted by Greg Perkins View Post
Pavan,

I do not see how you are so quick to degrade FIRST if this past season was your rookie year. I wasn't around in '97, however, I've seen the games since 2000 and FIRST has yet to fully replicate the game 2 years in a row. YES, toroid terror had inner tubes and a center structure, but open your young eyes for a second and realize in '97 there was no camera, or fancy-schmancy sensors; not to mention the scoring system was COMPLETELY different. Yes, some teams may replicate other teams appendages, however I HIGHLY doubt FIRST made this game to be a copy-cat to toroid terror. I guess we'll see in 8 weeks at the regionals.

~Greg
Thanks for mentioning that. You may think I am quick to judge, and that is because I am, just because I think that they did not think hard enough on this one. Sure they may change certain rules and aspects but the point is different. To be honest this is how I first saw it.

In 97
* No Camera
* No Sensors
* Different Scoring

In 07
* Similar Structure
* Few obstacles for getting tube on the pipe.

Changes made were not enough to combat the simplicities with that technology has gifted us with. In my opinion I think the game would have been better if the Green Light was Different for each of the 4 Sides, and it changed every 15-30 seconds (after Autonomous). I also think that they could have stuck with the height rule from previous years so we would have to think outside the box and instead of changing our bot vertically maybe even let us change it horizontally for less weight. Also if the chains were a bit more sensitive and flimsy I would think of it as a greater challenge, but as it stands I think it is way too easy for rate technology has evolved in 10 years.

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