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Re: Starting Heigh versus Shipping Height: A FIRST Trick?

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Originally Posted by mtaman02 View Post
For Rookies on the other hand it should be second nature to find away to get to the rules and start planning ahead.
By definition, rookie teams have never participated in FIRST before. How can something you've never done before be second nature? This seems to be the exact opposite of second nature. I'm puzzled.

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Originally Posted by efoote868 View Post
I have no problem with the fact the rules are not cross-referenced; there really is no reason to do so. In fact, I absolutely hate it when there are cross references.

Last of all, FIRST is not out to trick anyone! Do you really think that they would go against the GP they've been advocating for so long? What an absurdity.
Efoote,

I understand that you don't see a good reason to cross-reference here, and that's a legitimate viewpoint. However, you shouldn't let your own reading habits interfere with what might otherwise be a useful addition for others.

Furthermore, I realize that FIRST is not out to trick anyone (as I believe I have said). I think the way it is now poses an possible unintentional problem; the title I used was to provoke a response on the question.

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery View Post
I never said they did cross-reference. It's the teams responsibility to make the link. Additionally, FIRST MENTIONED THIS POSSIBLE ISSUE DURING KICK-OFF!. So no information was "buried" anywhere. The teams are responsible for reading every rule, not just the ones they feel might be important.
YOU STILL FAIL TO REALIZE THAT NOT EVERYONE LIVES UP TO YOUR STANDARDS and that FIRST should do its best to make the manual understandable. Please name one disadvantage (other than efoote's jumpiness) of putting a reminder under <R07>.

Paul Dennis