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Re: Passing Ringers to Robot over the Wall

I do not disagree that the Q & A does say that passing ringers and spoilers over the alliance station wall is OK. I wonder why FIRST did not include passing a ringer or spoiler over the wall in the update?

You also need to consider G08 for obtaining game pieces.

<G08> Obtaining GAME PIECES - ROBOTS may obtain GAME PIECES via any of the following methods:
Accepting a KEEPER prior to the start of the match as detailed in Rule <G04>
Picking up RINGERS from the opposing ALLIANCE HOME ZONE that were placed
there prior to the start of the match
Grasping RINGERS or SPOILERS that have been placed in the CHUTE by the HUMANPLAYER
Picking up RINGERS or SPOILERS from the playing field surface
Removing a SPOILER from a HANGING position on the RACK

There is no mention of a robot obtaining a game piece by passing it over the alliance station wall. The Q & A seems to contradict G08.

If passing over the alliance station wall is OK, then would it be OK to pass around the side of the alliance station wall provided that neither the human player or robot breaks plane? I guess that one could argue that G08 doesn't say that.... ROBOTS may "only" obtain game pieces ..... and that there may be other acceptable methods to obtain a game piece. My hope is that for the teams planning on passing a game piece over the wall is that they will be able to do it.