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Re: Team Update 15 - Very important

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Originally Posted by 461gopher View Post
This Update only mentions rule <G48> and is re-emphasizing the fact that the Human player cannot enter game pieces until the beginning of the tele-operated period.

Anyway, to answer your question, Rule <S03> is the key and it states that robots and human players cannot break the plane of the chute and the plane should extend over the player stations. So, yes handing ringers/spoilers over the wall should be an acceptable way to enter game pieces onto the field.

My concern with direct passing of game pieces over the alliance station wall is still having the heads of the drivers, human player and coaches within a few inches of a live robot whether or not a penalty for breaking the plane is given. I could easily see a defending robot pushing a well meaning robot trying to get a ringer from over the wall past the plane. I just do not want to see anyone get injured. That being said, whatever the FIRST decides or has decided is fine. The team I mentor could use passing over the wall to their advantage when placing ringers on the top row. Please read G08 below:

G08> Obtaining GAME PIECES - ROBOTS may obtain GAME PIECES via any of the following methods:
 Accepting a KEEPER prior to the start of the match as detailed in Rule <G04>
 Picking up RINGERS from the opposing ALLIANCE HOME ZONE that were placed there prior to the start of the match
 Grasping RINGERS or SPOILERS that have been placed in the CHUTE by the HUMAN PLAYER
 Picking up RINGERS or SPOILERS from the playing field surface
 Removing a SPOILER from a HANGING position on the RACK

I have not seen any updates to this rule stating that passing a game piece over the alliance station wall directly to a robot is an approved method to obtain a game piece. There is no "passing" method of any type listed in G08. There was a Q & A answer regarding R48 that said it was OK. Is it correct to assume that the Q & A answer would also apply to G08 even though it did not specifcally address it? Thank You.
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