[Dave McLaughlin]

I complete agree with the need for ramps for a winning alliance. At PNW a ramp, or winged robot was a nessity to secure a win. There were many matches where neither sides had a lifting bot and in this case scoring became important. I was one match in which two bots on the same side were lifted for 60 point, and in the final second an opposing bot completed a row of 7 for 128 points. Getting up to early and leving the rack open is killer, but not getting up is also a problem

-Dave McLaughlin 1983, Driver