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Re: Update #16

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Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz View Post
Dear FIRST,
I hope you are listening (reading) this thread.
I know you are working hard, harder then most people even realize. Some very well respected and knowlegeable people have answered with their thoughts in the previous pages. I suggest that when a Woodie Flowers award person like a Paul Copioli or Andy Baker gives their perspective, it is both heartfelt and indicative of their feelings towards inspiring students. Not just those that handle the tools and work on the robot but those others that may be rookies looking for help or veterans stuck on a problem or the freshmen in the stands crying over a broken robot. When a Jim or Ron Schadelee or a Raul speaks out, know that these are individuals who can turn a chunk of aluminum into a functioning part in the blink of an eye. (If I was able, I would nominate these folks for a WFA for their impact on students.) I know for myself it is hard to watch this discussion in light of the 11 + seasons I have participated in FIRST. In those competitions, I have watched these talented individuals and many others perform miracles on broken and under designed robots. They did it because of the deep personal belief that their work was changing the world one student at a time. I have seen hundreds of teams inspired to do better and walk away better human beings because one of these people smiled and asked if someone needed help. I have watched alliance partners give thanks that a well tooled and knowledgable team had taken their one broken partner under their wing and made a part better, fixed a defect, corrected an error. These people, these thousands, have heard your message and believed that it is truly better to be gracious professionals than to be competitors.

Perhaps you made a decision in haste or perhaps you didn't weigh all of the data equally. I am sorry but I have to agree with Raul, Paul, Andy, Jim, Stu and all of the others who have not yet spoken. The small tools in the pits should be allowed to stay. If there are issues unspoken, I am sure they can be addressed, please ask.

A humble mentor,
Al

P.S. I understand the grinder rule and agree.

Al, I agree with what you said more that I can express in this post.

This thread has turned into something that it should not have had to. Most of the most influential names that grace Chief Delphi and FIRST, and the new people who are working there way to be the next influential people, have all posted in this thread stating their distaste for some of the rules in this update. It is a sad day when people say that they will leave this program because of a rule that hasn't had time to be reviewed or properly discussed in the proper way. FIRST has done many more thousands of great and awesome things prior to this rule and I think that FIRST will continue to do that in some shape or form for a very long time.

This rule will effect MOE and many other teams. C-clamp your piece to a table and drill it with a portable drill, I know this isn't the same as a mounted drill press but its what be done until the rule is changed it can be done I have done it before in a pit when our drill press was temporally out of service and it worked fine. Injuries will happen no matter where you are or what you are doing being safe with everything you do will decrease those chances of having an incident. If you do not have the proper tools or training find someone who does, and if you are at a competition with MOE find one of us and we can help.
FIRST has taught me and I am sure many many many others how to adapt and overcome problems thrown at you, here is another problem we can do this together if we work together and help each other.

Paul, please don't let this be the straw to break your back I am sure that you are strong and can make it through this you have added so much to FIRST and will take even more away if you decide to leave.

I strongly believe that this rule will change in someway and the world will once again be normal.

I hope that adding my 2 cents with everyone else's has raised enough money for FIRST to look into this problem.
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