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Re: Rule Discussion: Possession

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Originally Posted by GaryV1188 View Post
I hope everyone realizes this rule applies ONLY to tubes placed by their own alliance. If an opponent places a ringer on your robot, it is ignored. And the opponent will be penalized if it is done on purpose.
Could you please point out where this is stated?

EDIT:
POSSESSION: a GAME PIECE is considered to be in the POSSESSION of a ROBOT if it is
being fully supported by the ROBOT
, or if the ROBOT is controlling the position and movement of
the GAME PIECE. (emphasis added by me)

If a tube is on the robot and not touching the ground at all, then the robot has possession of it.

<G09> POSSESSION - ROBOTS may only have 1 (one) GAME PIECE in their POSSESSION at
any time during the match. A 10-point penalty will be assessed for each infraction.
(...) GAME PIECES may fall on to a ROBOT during the course of normal
game play (e.g. a RINGER falls on a ROBOT while attempting to HANG it on a Spider Leg).
In such cases, GAME PIECES that are already in the POSSESSION of the ROBOT may be
played. However, the additional GAME PIECE must be removed from the ROBOT (either
by the ROBOT or by an ALLIANCE partner) before it can POSSESS a new GAME PIECE.
GAME PIECES may not be intentionally placed on opposing ROBOTS for the purpose of
causing a violation of this rule. Any such GAME PIECE placements will not be considered
in POSSESSION of the affected ROBOT, and will be ignored.


I do not see anything regarding which alliance did the "dropping." I do not believe an alliance partner would intentionally drop a ringer on a robot, and I don't believe the refs should be accountable for the intentions of a robot driver. If a ringer is inadvertently placed on a robot, the robot must get rid of that ringer before it can pick up and score any other tubes.
Also, I didn't see any penalties for dropping a tube on a competitor (except for perhaps a yellow card)
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Last edited by Taylor : 12-03-2007 at 11:16. Reason: clarification