[Travis Hoffman]

The fact that this poll is split almost 50/50 right now is sad. The fact that referees have actually taken points away from alliances fitting redateam's endgame description is sad.

Can we get a little common sense here, people? Can we get a shout out from FIRST to all refs to provide a 100% logical and reasonable directive on how to make this call? Will there ever be one day eventually where we stop feeling the need to debate these rules on this forum because the rules are crystal clear to everyone, and the refereeing education and monitoring system is actually strong enough to eliminate these inconsistent calls from event to event?

GAH. If I were blueateam's alliance captain, I'd be ashamed at winning should a call against redateam be made in this manner, and I'd immediately forfeit my hollow "victory" for the sake of promoting common sense, logic, and reason throughout FIRST. I would seriously refuse to accept the trophy, for I'd be ashamed to benefit from such a lame ruling that would presume a ringer holding up part of a ramp on one side of the rampbot's drivebase is somehow magically supporting the robot lifted 12"+ on the other side of the drivebase.

GET REAL!