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Re: YMTC: Redabot Scores 30 Bonus Points?

I am getting two things from this discussion:
  1. The specific situation is unclear. Q&A says no points, but there is no definition of the word supported in the manual. Manual as written says points, maybe. Q&A is NOT the final authority (although this is debatable--we need a specific "power structure" indicating what has the trump card, Manual, Updates, or Q&A). So, the head ref has to make a judgement call with little guidance, other than what has been called before (for consistency's sake--is there a way of getting calls between refs quickly?). I'd hate to be the first ref to get this situation in a Week 1 event.
  2. We need an update on this situation and fast! Preferably, the only change is to add the definition of supported. (As in, touching vs pull the tube out and have two robots collapse and that sort of thing.) Simple fix, but it should eliminate most of the debate. Two views + official statements for both (if you look at them right) = not good.
If I were the head ref, right now, I'd call the event GDC member for advice. If there was no GDC member, I'd try the FTA, the other refs, the scorekeeper, and probably call FIRST HQ. If there was still disagreement, I'd likely declare for red on common sense.
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