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Re: Bad News for teams on Waiting List

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Originally Posted by FreedomForce View Post
At each regional, the judges are given a number of AT LARGE bids for teams, Those at large teams aren't announced until the TUESDAY after that regional.

1-9 Teams = 1 At Large Bid
10-19 Teams = 2 At Large Bids
20-29 Teams = 3 At Large Bids
I'd say this wouldn't work. It's too open for human factors to play a part (what if the judge missed your robot, or was a mentor for a certain team, etc). It'd be better to simply reduce the number of pre-qualified teams from each regional. If you think we get whiny threads NOW about ref decisions, wait until the first box-on-wheels robot that got top seed because of luck doesn't get picked to go to championships, or a quite deserving robot doesn't get picked at a high-skill regional because there were so many deserving robots.


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so regionals > nationals > championship

i think that would work too
It'd probably cost too much money for individual teams to attend any kind of a tiered tournament structure. I was reading a pamphlet posted in the "how to attract sponsors" thread, and for the team whose pamphlet it was, it cost them $17,000 to go to Atlanta. Just imagine having to go to another city to prove you need to go to Atlanta.


My idea would be to simply extend the length of the current championship. Have two super-divisions, let's call them A and B. Within A and B would basically be an entire championship. There'd be a Newton-A, a Curie-A, etc.
All wednesday: A qualifiers
Thursday: A finishes qualifiers at noon, rest of day A temporarily packs their robots off to the side and B uncrates
Friday: B qualifiers
Saturday: B finishes qualifiers at noon, the finals alliances for each division are picked (top 4 picking instead of top 8 picking), and elimination rounds start.

Perhaps reduce finals alliances to top-4 in each division so that eliminations take the same time as they currently do.

Advantages:
-Teams don't have to attend a third tier of competitions, which would cost them lots of money
-It doesn't take up twice as much room (since only one division is fully active at once) as simply having two simultaneous championships, but it does take twice as much time
-Since finals alliances are picked on saturday, A doesn't have a strategizing advantage over B. If you allow both super-divisions to pick any robot in A or B, then A doesn't have a scouting advantage either.

Problems in mine:
-It's kinda confusing
-It'd cost A teams more money since they'd have to have the full team there for all days, while B teams could send a scouting and uncrating contingent on wednesday and send the full team in on friday.
-For A, having to re-crate your robot and pit somewhere in the Georgiadome while B was playing on Friday-Saturday would be annoying
-It's not really extendable for when champs grows twice as big as it is now. At some point, another tier of competitions will have to happen.

Last edited by Bongle : 28-03-2007 at 16:14.