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Re: Curie Semifinal 1 - 3, what happened?

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Originally Posted by MasterChief1732 View Post
If you watch the robots carefully, 1114 was never pinned against the rack for 30 seconds. Team 48 backed off every once in a while....
I agree with this, and the video shows it. I think what Conor said earlier is accurate though - both the refs and our drive team failed to interpret the pinning rule correctly. Per what he told me, the coach was going off the counts of the ref, who incorrectly timed the activity and threw no flags. The count should reset after 3 seconds of backing off, but the ref reset it prematurely. I would say that each pin was typically well short of 10 seconds in length, but the cumulative effect of all the pinning intervals was well in excess of the acceptable length of time. But none of the drive team was aware of that while the match was being played.

Given the rules, I feel the pinning penalty that was ultimately applied was more than justified. Some will tell you I said that much more than that was expected, and they would be correct.

Jay and others, thank you for your observations, but I'd ask that you'd be a lot more patient before assigning malicious intent to anyone - especially if you are assigning it in general to an entire FIRST team. Please consider the overall audience you are speaking to when making these claims. If I were an outsider browsing these forums, I'd ask why the heck I'd want to get involved with this crazy program if this were the first thing I read about.
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