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Originally Posted by Joel J.
I'm on 1114's side on this one.. not only because of the fatality suffered by their robot, but because of how consistently poor the calls were by the refs this weekend.
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You're not the only one, Joel, people seem to be having difficulty forming an objective opinion on this match and the reffing. The fact that their arm broke off has absolutely nothing to do with DQing 48 or not. 1114's arm got caught in the rack while they were trying to score with someone playing defense on them.
As a driver who has played some defense this year I would have done the exact same thing as 48's driver. If you're trying to defend against someone who is just about to score but hasn't yet placed and released the ringer you're a bad driver if you DON'T keep pushing
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Originally Posted by Karthik
Fact: After the arm snapped off, 48 stopped playing defense on 1114, making it seem like they knew what had happened
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Just because they knew what happened doesn't make them guilty! It may be hard to see from behind the rack and across the field, but sounds travels fine and I'm sure they hear the crack and saw the arm dangling from the ringer...
They stopped playing defense on 1114 because playing defense against a bot that can't score isn't much use. Or would it be more "graciously professional" to pretend like they still did?
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Originally Posted by Karthik
Fact: Team 48 was booed by a large section of the Curie stands (1114 was not part of this group) when they were announced for their next match. I have never seen this at FIRST event before, and I think it says a lot about how upset people were about this incident.
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Again, people feel so badly for 1114 because they're such a grade A+ team and would likely have been Curie champs (and then who knows what).
This section of the stands obviously failed to see things objectively here. 1114 = good guys; 48 = bad guys. right?
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Originally Posted by Karthik
Fact: 48 pinned 1114 for 34 seconds, without backing up by 3 feet for 3 seconds.
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http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...23692796016767
Definitely not a fact. The pinning in question starts at 1:02 and ends at 1:10 (that's 8 seconds btw). And before you say that 48 didn't back up 3 feet for 3 seconds, that rule doesn't apply when you are pushing back and moving back the 3 feet WITH THEM. That only makes it easier/quicker for them to re-engage in a pushing match they're sure to win.
The pinning stopped at 1:10 and started again at 1:14 (that's 4 seconds btw) and they certainly moved back more than 3 feet. If 1114 wanted to get out of that situation they should have stayed put, turned to the side and booked it out of there in the 3+ seconds and 3+ feet they had available instead of chasing after them for god's sake!
(watch carefully the space in between 1114 and the RACK, not 48 and 1114.)
I'll say it again, put yourself in the place of team 48's driver. Would you have backed off just as they were about to score the ringer? I doubt it.