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Re: WOW-- Did I miss something?

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Originally Posted by CJV648 View Post
I'm not not sure of the refs reasoning, but it was different than what was used in Curie QF 34 when 1270 got under both 648 and 1732 while playing defense next to the rack in the match. Neither tipped--648 drove across them, they backed off 1732. Only the 1732 encounter is shown in the video.
Thanks for this post. Your reference to Curie QF 34 is very useful. It is true that 1270 is low to the ground, but its design is not in violation of any rules. The robot sits 4.5” above the ground with a CG that is directly in the center of the robot at 6.5” off the ground, making the robot very difficult to push around and virtually impossible to flip—that’s the way it was designed.

Robots that are top heavy and try to push the Red Dragon do have a tendency to tip. This match is a good example of that. As 1732 tried to push the Red Dragon from the side, it started to tip over. The Red Dragon was perpendicular to 1732 at the time. The 1732 driver did the only thing he could do and that was to regain control of the robot and move away from the Red Dragon. This was a smart move. If 1732 had continued, it would have flipped over just as 71 did in the semi-finals.

I’m simply pointing out that trying to push the Red Dragon will cause the aggressor to flip. Should this be a penalty? Who should get the yellow/red card? It seems that quite a bit is up to the interpretation of the referee. What if the referee gets it wrong -- what recourse is there?

I am still trying to find out what the call was on the field. Maybe the referee saw something no one else did. I would love to see a video of this match that clearly shows what happened.

Thanks for your understanding!